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« on: April 08, 2008, 02:09:54 AM »

Today, some headhunter for a firm in Singapore asked me if I wanted to apply for some C# developer position that called for at least five years of experience. The initial email went something like this:


Hi,

Good morning this is ----- of [company removed], we are currently looking for an IT Professionals who is open for the opportunity to work in Singapore for permanent posting and your friend 'J' had forwarded me your resume but it looks like its only a summary, can you email me again a detailed resume of yours? Also attached is a reference form, kindly fill it up and email it also to me coz I need to attach it to your resume before forwarding to my supervisor.

Thank you and hope to hear from you soon.


[Edit: The copy of the resume I sent her was *three* pages long and it listed every programmer job I had since 1999, in addition to the all the open source projects that I worked on, the articles I had done for CodeProject, and the certifications and awards that I had. Despite that, she still called it a "summary"]

To make things worse, she couldn't even properly remember (or even spell) J's full name. The attachment she mentioned wasn't even attached to the email she sent me, and it was all downhill from there. Here was my initial reply:


Hi -------,

Sorry, I'm not currently interested in working in Singapore, but you can give J [edit: I corrected the spelling for his name] my thanks for referring me.



At first, things were cordial. Her response was the typical head hunter speak that we've all come to know:


Hi,

Thank you for your reply. If Im may ask do you know any friend or colleague who have the same qualification as yours, or who is JAVA, C#, ORACLE DBA or whose experience using a ACTUATE REPORT, kindly email their names and contact # to me so I can call and talk to them.

Your help is highly apreciated.

-----[Name deleted]----


The bad English was starting to get on my nerves. I don't know what got in to me, but I had to reply:


Me:Nope, sorry. There's not very many programmers here in ------ with more than eight years of experience like myself.

Now, out of curiosity, what made you think my resume was a 'summary'?


She didn't answer my second question. Instead, all I got was a simple "Thanx". Maybe my own judgment got the best of me, but the combination of the LOLCode speak and the fact that she just insulted my life's work experience made me snap.


Me: You're welcome. Maybe when you learn how to properly spell and type in English, you'll actually find more qualified applicants who will take you seriously and won't turn you down. Have a nice day.


...and it just gets worse from there. Her reply:


Recruiter: Sorry, its only a typo error. But anyway I hope also that next time you won't be too ARROGANT. And for your info your not few, there is lot of programmers here in -----, thier just hiding. And one more thing your not also qualified coz your a jumper................


[Note: I later found out that this same company was looking for three senior-level C# developers and they couldn't find anyone to fill those positions because the qualified developers were 'hiding'. So much for finding replacements!]

She clearly couldn't tell the difference between an arrogant person, and an angry potential hire. From her perspective, she was still clueless about why I became so...hostile. She was starting to take it way too personally. Nevertheless, I was still annoyed at how clueless she was about what she just did:


Me: Then you still wouldn't be wasting your time on me if there weren't a few of us now, would you?

And remember, its "their", not thier. It's "because", not "coz". There you go with your English again. Now run a long, little "associate" consultant, before you get yourself into trouble for your "charming" recruiting skills.


Most recruiters would probably forget about replying at this point, considering that the potential hire (me) didn't seem interested, nor was the conversation getting any more productive. Now here's the "award-winning" reply that I didn't think would happen:


Thank you for your correction. Anyway, one question, Are you gay? You sounds like you belong to them, Am I right? Can you be my consultant? MR. GENIUS???????????????


After some googling, I managed to get her company's address from within the country, as well as their head office in Australia. Here's the last reply:


------,

Let's back up a bit, shall we? Before all of this mess escalated, you inadvertently insulted my friend by not being able to spell his name properly, and more importantly, you even insulted me by calling my three-page resume of my life's work a "summary". At least do some research on what all those "fancy" keywords mean in my resume before you go asking for a summary because you can't seem to understand it all means. I turned down this offer to apply for work in Singapore precisely because you didn't even take the time to ASK a professional if my resume was actually qualified, or just a "summary". If that's a "summary", then I dare you to find an experienced programmer who will tell you otherwise.

Maybe when you start acting like an adult, you'll actually get people with more than five years of experience to listen to you.

So no, I'm not gay, and no, I won't be your English consultant. I'm a programmer, not a linguist, and you are way out of line.

And just in case the words I just typed above are 'too big' for you to understand, I've forwarded a copy of this email to both the head office in Sydney, Australia and the one in Makati so your superiors can do all the translating for you.


So that's pretty much it for this little story in progress. In hindsight, it probably would have been easier just to say "no", but there's just something so innately offensive about this whole incident that I just can't put my finger on...
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2008, 02:32:32 AM »

LOL  Flush, that was great!!  I think you did an admirable job on the reply.  3 pages is a long resume, tbh.  If it is longer than 2, most people's eyes start to glaze over & they'd never consider that a summary.  Following it up by sending it to her supervisors & to their head office is a nice touch.  Anyone who actually stoops to the level of calling someone names (and questioning their sexuality) shouldn't be doing that job.  She should have stopped after your email about her English.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2008, 03:02:45 AM »

oh thats not me, i found that a few minutes ago on a coding forum under coding horror stories.

but sounds like something i might do.
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2008, 09:33:11 PM »

rolling  Ya I could just see you do it!!  Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2008, 02:57:04 PM »

I thought it was about you at first aswell flush rolling

funny story though lol
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2008, 05:57:14 PM »

funny story indeed, but that programmer does get a bit cocky, so she called his 3 pages resume a summery, big whoop.(FYI usually if a resume is supposed to be composed of one page only the potential employers aren't interested in your life's work, just in the main projects that have been conducted recently). the rest of it just shows how immature and crazy the so called head hunter is.
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2008, 04:43:14 PM »

your right it should be compressed to 1 page, 2 at the most.
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2008, 03:03:17 PM »

great story, did you get any replies after that ?
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