I was always here!!!!!!!![spoiler]Earlier today someone posted a message either at imdb.com or here on
www.gateworld.net (sorry I can't remember which) that said when Rush looked up in the sky at the end of "Justice" the constillation "Souther Cross" was there.
What are they over Ozzyland???? :) GTO I didn't think much of it until now. According to reports on how the series closes for the year the Lucians get onboard Destiny or attack Destiny. I have wondered how this will work as they are supposed to be nine galaxies or so over and no ship, especially a modified Goa'uld ship could travel there. And the Orii deep space rings can't really be built to bounce ships back and forth.
So I was thinking what if Rush lied about how far away they are from home? What if they are still in the Milky Way or a galaxy close enough that the Homeworld Security crew could send help in a relatively short time frame, say a year or so?
Who would challenge him on this? Most of the scientific crew have been working on survival level issues like how the ship itself works. Eli has been trapped between the Rush/Young power struggle.
I think HWS is going on Rush's word for their exact location. They are only travelling a little faster than light speed so considering it would take years to travel from Earth to our closest neighbor star at light speed this may not be a far fetched an idea.
Rush has lied before to continue his work. Lying about their location to keep his butt on Destiny is clearly not above him, so what do you guys think?
Well as we've seen in recent conflicts abroad, soldiers - being humans - can exhibit behaviour that falls outside the norms of what the majority would consider "acceptable" pretty frequently given the right conditions. But the same could be said of civilians too; only civilians aren't exposed to especially stressful conditions as often as soldiers in a conflict zone might be. Young is in an extreme situation. On balance, Col. Young has probably made some bad calls - but I'd say more good than bad, up until now.
I haven't found him particularly autocratic as a commander to this point; on the contrary, he seems to consider both the welfare and feelings of those aboard Destiny when making decisions. And despite what happened on-planet this episode, I think it highly dubious to the point of unfair to characterize him as being a murderer-in-the-making.
And Rush's value needs to be considered both in terms of his value to contributing the scientfic effort in at least equal measure to his usefulness in getting the Destiny crew home. Since everyone but Rush has the latter goal as first on their list of objectives, can we really say he's all that valuable? What has he contributed already that Eli couldn't have figured out?
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Greer (angry black man apparently) and Scott ready/willing to (I guess) declare martial law, process be damned, establish power by force.
Yeah, Greer has clearly filled the role as the ship tuff guy. But Young - whatever we may think of him knowing what we do now - has commanded the respect of the senior officers right from the beginning and still does. (Especially having just been exonnerated of involvement in Spencer's death.) And that respect naturally goes a long way, but I think particularly so in a military structure since both Scott and Greer have command experience and appreciate Young's challenges.
And however in-favour Greer (clearly a career NCO) may be of putting the Destiny under martial law entirely, one can't simply assume that's Scott's attitude because he respects Young as much as Greer. Scott may respect Young, but is clearly politically-aware enough (perhaps unlike Greer) to understand shouting orders isn't the answer. A fact Scott tries to argue with the Sargeant when he rallys the troops mid-episode and seems ready to storm out the door to unilatiraly restore Young to power.
Indeed, despite doubling as the ship's playboy in the first several episodes, it's a welcome development for Scott to be shown as a more capable right-hand-man to Young, particularly with the Destiny being put on a course to near-certain civil war and mutiny under the inept ministrations of Ms. Camille Wray during her mercifully brief tenure as Captain. (No denegration intended to the performance of Ming-Na who, if anything, I'm sure we all agree, has performed brilliantly.)
Better that than her near-complete evolution into a replacement for Dianna Troi. We've had quite enough of the extremely attractive, yet chronically-sobbing daughter of a powerful politician pairing off with the ship's stud, haven't we?
Okay, now I'm starting to sound way too jaded too - but devoting a certain amount of time to Chloe's character growth is a good idea. And there's less danger of perceived plot regurgitation putting her in the role of a legal advocate than turning that over to someone like Young, you have to admit. Besides, she hadn't been terribly useful for doing much more than generating sexual tension and being a possible thorn in the relationship Scott has with Eli to this point.
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That was the payday for all this 'character drama'? The 'trial' thing seemed forced. When they had the trial on BSG, I got it, I understood why, I understood why everyone acted the way they did. I don't get that here.
And in BSG a much larger arc of episodes were devoted to Baltar's trial, which became the plot's central focus. That's missing here, plus you're forgetting that Young isn't Baltar.
Rush is Baltar, obviously.
Actually, I think on balance SGU is doing a fantastic job of avoiding character regurgitation. You can't just say there's no law on the Destiny because BSG had a trial arc. With this much conflict, at some point someone's gonna need a lawyer, so with respect, the fact we only had a preliminary hearing in a less-formal setting made a lot of sense.
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Finally, the tech. The chair and an alien ship got a small cameo in this episode. We don't know what the chair did, and we didn't see inside the alien ship. That has got to be some kind of sci-fi-entertainment equivalent of a ****block
Talk to Eli about that last bit.
I thought the spikes were a great upgrade to the brain-sucker thing in the wall that turned O'Neal into a gibbering automaton. I'm not all that fond of Dr. Franklin's character (the guy who quite stupidly took a seat in the chari). I've wanted to shoot him at least once in almost every episode I've seen him in since "Water" when Greer put a round or two into his shoulder.
So what do you think??? GTO[/spoiler]
